took it to emory and they were shocked. they really were and they said this is not emory, and i said, i know, but it was. they said we have to do something about this. >> do you have advice for anyone who feels discriminated against? as i was telling you in the commercial break, there was a guest who was on earlier, and he had kids with him, and i said, you know, my parents will tell me, don, that's just the way it was. i'll go, i don't understand mom and dad. i wonder what things we will be saying to younger people about, well, that was just the way it was. and they'll go what? what were you guys thinking? >> things are different now. they're very different. students speak up. we couldn't speak up. there was no way. my father tried to get the dean to, you know, revisit this. he wouldn't even see them. others were treated very bad. you know, it was a one-sided thing. you didn't have any option to do that. nowadays kids have advisers, and they don't take anything. >> yeah.